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Still a noob, but I'm getting better at powering up a wheelie in 1st on my F4, but I find myself letting off the throttle and allowing the front end to slam down a little faster than I want it to.   I was just wondering if anyone has any tips about shifting into second while in a 1st gear wheelie?  How high do I need to be, do I need to be at balance point to shift up?  Thanks everyone

Story:  Today I put a wheelie up while getting on an on ramp, I road it to the end of 1st gear but when the font end came down the entire bike did this side to side wobble extremely fast.  I locked the back breaks up and had the front brakes lightly pressed and the wobble ended and I pulled over.  Scary as Hell.  The guys behind me said they couldnt believe I didnt go down.  Is that the right thing to do when in that type of a situation (back breaks hard, front breaks soft?.  Or is there something else I could have do to counteract the wobble?  Thanks everyone

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CBR 600F4

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The wobble is what is known as a tank slapper. All you can do for those is either A. get a steering dampner and B. hang on for your life. It's caused in wheelies is by the front tire not landing inline with the rear.

As for shifting i've got no clue i don't stunt, but if i remember right most people don't shift from 1-2 while in wheelies, it's normaly 2-3 or higher.

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i go from 1'st to 5th on my 2004 f4i... its not hard once you get the hang of it.  Im the only one of about 20 bikes i ride with that can shift while in the air.

it's not hard to do, but you gotta have that wheelie up near BP. put some pressure on the shifter, let off slighty and click it to next gear and regain throttle. watch out, it likes to jump up a little higher sometimes so cover that brake. watch out too if you catch neutral you'll rack ur nuts off the tank

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make wheelies

ok, basically you should learn clutch ups before you try shifting in a wheelie

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There is no need to shift while in a wheelie. Once you hit balance point you should be able to sustain that rate of speed. Besides if you are new to wheelies and can not ride a BP wheelie I would think trying to get the bike to BP while sitting then trying to shift is just going to F you up......

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00' CBR 929RR (Yellow/Black)

Nightraven wrote:

The wobble is what is known as a tank slapper. All you can do for those is either A. get a steering dampner and B. hang on for your life. It's caused in wheelies is by the front tire not landing inline with the rear.

There is a technique to getting out of a tankslapper... should you get into one, don't touch the brakes at all!! Lean back on the bike and give it throttle. This will take the weight off the the front tire allowing it to straighten out easier. By braking, you're putting additional forward force on the tire as well as the current side to side force. A tire only has so much traction and to ask it to compensate for a tankslapper and heavy braking is asking too much.

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2001 F4i... with bald tires

just throttle her up and do another wheelie!

just be careful this second time down! buahhahah

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Mawfaki # 0.5
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That is how I came out of mine was by accident. I hung the throttle open when the front end went back to the left, and that brought me out of the slapper I was in. It happen so fast that I didn't have time to think about nothing but holding on, and it just so happend as I mentioned that as the bars went back to the left, and I still had a good grip on the throttle, it opened up and took the weight off the front end.

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The first few times I got a tank slapper I was scurred... but not having a damper and riding at a fairly rough track, I've grown accustomed to them. They aren't pleasant, but if you know how to deal with them they can (usually) be controlled.

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2001 F4i... with bald tires

i agree the best way to recover froma tankslapper it lean back and roll the throttle. the best way to avoid one is hold the bars straight while wheeling and ease it down by keeping ur throttle set and using the brakes to bring it down

Do NOT try to shift while in a wheelie!

Even if you can sail them for miles, you should NEVER shift in a wheelie.  Thats the quickest way to loop out in a wheelie. 

Keep practicing tell you find balance point, and use balance point.  Don't use power and shifting to keep your wheelie up.
If you can't ride a wheelie at balance point for miles on end, or slow them down to slow speeds, you have NO business trying to shift.

Personally I can ride for miles in 1st or 2nd on my f4i.. and I don't even attempt to shift.  I"v watched too many people wreck from it.

Also don't get USED to tank slapper.  If you get tank slappers a lot you need to change your riding style.  Getting used so that *** is a big no no, cuase your never really in full control of a tank slapper, and if one puts you into trees or a gaurd rail, then you'l change your opinion on being used to tank slappers..



edit: and start clutching your wheelies up..  Power wheelies will get you hurt also...   If you clutch it, you pop up to balane point and use a small ammount of power to keep it up.
When you powre it up, you just jam the throttle nad hope for the best, somtimes it coudl pop up to balance point and you could chop the throttle just fine, somtimes it'l shoot to balance point, hit power band and loop you out before you know what happens. 

Exactly......................Whats the point of shifting???????

Let me guess....to keep going?

 If so, that just means your not at the Balance Point.

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00' CBR 929RR (Yellow/Black)

Sorry but the point of shifting is so you can go faster and faster...then when your at 5th and doing over 250klms you can just sit there at bp and enjoy the rush of being on one on the freeway....

I much prefer to hold a wheelie at the 70mph speed limit and just pass cars slightly faster then them.