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Last post 09-04-2008, 01:43 AM by SoCal94F2. 16 replies.
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  •  07-28-2008, 10:23 PM 290941

    Tire options

    hey guys im new to the whole buying tires thing for bikes at least.. but im looking to get some advice on the tires that you like. i do a lot of commuting and canyons on da weekends so i need what i was thinking a good medium compound tire. So and tips you veterans can give a rookie would be much appriciatted..

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  •  07-28-2008, 10:46 PM 290944 in reply to 290941

    Re: Tire options

    I just put Pirelli Diablo Stradas on my CBR600RR and love 'em.  They are supposed to have excellent wear life and wet traction.  I think they are more of a sport touring tire but I think that's what you'll want.  They warm up quick and corner great.  Google 'em and you'll see good reviews.  The next step up would be Diablo Rossos, but you're gonna pay for that new technology.  Good luck.

    J


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  •  07-29-2008, 05:56 AM 290958 in reply to 290944

    Re: Tire options

    street tire choices (just like track) are based highly on preference. i've used dunlop 209 qualifiers, dunlop 208zr, metzler m1, metzler m3, and a couple more i can't remember. did i feel the difference in grip? nah, cuz I don't ride that fast. however, i value mileage so i never really got to try the sport touring to get more miles for my daily commute (back then). but my putt putt pace made my 209s last a bit, but not as much on the m1s or m3s (seem to be more known for shorter life, but the m3's were supposedly better in the wet). i've tested the 209's vs. m3's vs. m1's in the wet also. couldn't really tell the difference.

    others might chime in based on preference also. it's all about finding the tire that gives you confidence. if all the magazines in the world told you these are the best but are crappy to you that it saps your confidence, it does you not good. on my duc, i have pirellis dragon supercorsa pro's on my duc right now and they fit the bill just fine. but they're more street with the occasional track day type tire (for the slower riders like me).

    then there's also the popular choices like Micheline pilot powers 2ct , etc, etc. for bridgestones 5 ct stuff blah blah blah. no to dissuade you, but only you can really tell when you try new tires and it's ok to experiment and try the choices out there.



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  •  07-29-2008, 06:21 AM 290959 in reply to 290958

    Re: Tire options

    I'm about to buy tires this week as well with pretty much the same requirments as yours. I'm with revs on this in that for mainly commuting with the ocassional twisty I haven't noticed a significant difference in the tires I've gone through. I have no complaints about the Metzler Sportec M1's I have on there now and they seem to stick a "bit" better than some of other ones I've gone through but I'd prefer more mileage.

    Having read many of these threads it seems the Micheline pilot powers 2ct seem to get the most satisfied results but I don't know if that's really due to them being any better or not. I think those are the ones I'm going to buy this time so I can find out for myself since they seem to get better mileage than most. The worst rider reviews seem to be for all Dunlop models but I have no experience with those so I don't know if there's any truth to that.

    If you really want to confuse yourself, type in "Motorcycle Tire Reviews" in Google and be prepared to get much more info. than you bargained for or wanted to know.

    Off Topic: There was a report on tires a few months ago that many dealers sell tires that have been on shelf a long time. New tires they claim should not be on shelf more than 2 years but according to the report many routinely sell tires that have been on shelf longer. There's a code on tire that lets you know manufacture date ... I don't know if there's any way you'd find that out buying online but I'm just throwing it ou there.


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  •  07-29-2008, 04:54 PM 290970 in reply to 290941

    Re: Tire options

    Pirelli Rosso tires are what you are looking for.
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  •  07-30-2008, 11:02 PM 291052 in reply to 290970

    Re: Tire options

    i'm with duc...

    rosso or if you can get your hands on some diablos still...

    perfect for what you wanna do!

     


    Mawfaki # 0.5
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  •  07-31-2008, 04:55 AM 291064 in reply to 291052

    Re: Tire options

    Tahoe SC:
    rosso or if you can get your hands on some diablos still...


    I see on the Pirelli site they have a tire model "Diablo Rosso", I assume these are the ones you're both talking about?

    I'm about to take a 5000 mile road trip in a few weeks and considering that would mean a good chunk of these tires life will be eaten up quickly by highways I'm looking for a tire that has decent tread life.

    I can't seem to find any sites that give you average tread life expectancy of motorcycle tires. Anyone know of any? I know there's a code but A) Most sites selling tires don't list that code and B) That code is by manufacturer. I was hoping for a site that compares different brands/models with real world experience.

    Do you or duc know what the Diablo Rosso expected tread life is as compared with the other leading contenders? Better, worse .. by a little, by a lot?

    Thanks


    Mawfaki # .5

    02 CBR954rr 2 Bro's; PC3; Zero Grav; Corbin Seat; Throttlemeister; etc...
  •  07-31-2008, 07:16 PM 291087 in reply to 291064

    Re: Tire options

    ^^^ All depends on how you ride. I'm currently using the stock tire that came with the 675 (Pirelli Corsa - older version of the Rosso I believe) and just commuting to and from work on it since Jan last year, basically cruising and nothing more, and I already have 5000 miles on it. Yes, it is squaring off, but still plenty of tread.

     

    The Rosso hasn't been around all that long, so not sure if you will find any long term data on it, but I imagine it will last just as long.


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  •  08-01-2008, 01:09 AM 291102 in reply to 291087

    Re: Tire options

    thanks for the advice guys. another thing, has anyone used the continental road attacks? if so whats your advice on them

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  •  08-01-2008, 02:51 AM 291107 in reply to 290941

    Re: Tire options

    Tires you want are Dunlop Roadsmart tires.  I just got back from 4000 km trip ripping around West Virginia and they were great.  The rear is a dual compound and the front is as soft as the sides of the rear tire.  Great tire for commuting and the canyons.  I would seriously consider these tires.
  •  08-05-2008, 12:06 AM 291217 in reply to 291102

    Re: Tire options

    Since I bought my own tire changer, balancer and found a way to get tires at cost... I've been playing with a whole bunch of them the last year. If you get a race tire, it will wear fast and require some heat up time to stick. If you dont ride hard enough they tend not to heat up enough and feel vague. Most mid range tires do well for traction but wear quickly, most touring tires suffer on the traction. Most of them either go bald or square off at 3000 miles.  As said above Pilot 2ct's are an interesting mix as are the Battlax dual compounds. My 600 would square them off quickly and my liter twin shredded the rubber off too fast (especially the Battlax 014's). But a really interesting tire by Michelin called the Pilot Road 2 has been the tire of choice these days for myself and most everyone in SoCal who has switched over (my whole riding group runs them now after seeing my results for themselves). It has a hard touring center, Pilot Power sides and were getting about 5000-6000 out of a rear on the 600 inlines, 650 twinlines and both liter inlines and liter+ twins. They wear really even and just outlast anything I've ever run that has this much grip at full tilt in the corners and still needs to commute (I drag knee on the weekends and commute all week). They also grip very well in the rain (been there a lot lately) and have a great shape that rolls side to side with ease. They also offer more of a lean angle than other tires of the same mid to touring range (more like a race tire) I cant comment on the front Road 2's though, I've been running the straight up Pilot 2ct's and Pilot Powers (like the Pilot Powers better up front). As stated above, its hard to buy tires from personal preference or forum surfing. If you have similar SoCal weather though, I cant imagine you would be disapointed.


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  •  08-27-2008, 06:18 AM 292065 in reply to 291217

    Re: Tire options

    ya, i live in san diego also. so u say that the pilot road 2ct is a good tire for our weather and da twesties.

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  •  09-02-2008, 07:05 PM 292258 in reply to 292065

    Re: Tire options

    I can't say enough good things about the Michelin Road 2 dual compound. I'm regularly getting 6000 miles out of a rear so I'm swapping both front and back tires at the same time these days. I commute durring the week and ride the mountains every weekend. I have since sold my CBR and jumped into a 1000cc Italian Twin. Tire wear is much more exagerated on this bike but the Road 2's wear the same and grip equally.  I ripped through a set of Pirreli Corsa's and Dulop 208's in 2500 miles each - very discouraging for the same amount of grip or in the Dunlops case even less.

    My 600cc's Pilot Road after 3000 miles- notice the wear bars distance fromt the surface!!!

    Below is my Aprilia Falco on Palomar running the Pilot Road 2ct Rear and Pilot Power 2ct front with 4500 miles on both.  Still sticking like glue although the front 2ct can feel a bit vague at times, the rear never slips.



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  •  09-02-2008, 08:20 PM 292259 in reply to 292258

    Re: Tire options

    nice picts. i dont care how good my tires are, i still dont have the balls to drag a knee yet.. lol

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  •  09-02-2008, 10:56 PM 292261 in reply to 292259

    Re: Tire options

    Knee sliding is kinda fun and not that hard really. In fact you dont need a lot of speed to drop a knee, but you do need a bike that gives good predictable feedback so you stay confident and in control while hanging off. Tires can only do so much and often take the heat for bad suspension. Inverted forks, a stiff chassis, proper sag and fully adjustable compression/rebound settings were the ticket for me to really feel confident at full lean.
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