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How to replace chain and sprockets

Last post 05-04-2008, 07:11 AM by Goatsie. 31 replies.
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  •  04-23-2008, 10:22 PM 286533 in reply to 257864

    Re: How to replace chain and sprockets

    This is, by far, the best tutorial in chain and sprocket I've seen yet. Thanks! What brand chain breaker/ riveter/press are you using (or recommend)?

    1994 CBR 600 F2 Mods:
    Fox Racing Rear Shock
    Frame Sliders
    Vortex Sprockets: -1, +3
    RK Racing X-Ring Chain
    Metzeler Sportech M1
  •  04-23-2008, 10:53 PM 286536 in reply to 286533

    Re: How to replace chain and sprockets

    I own and use the DID Chain Tool

    It's not cheap.  They're around $130.  But they'll pay for themselves in the end.  Most shops in my area charge $90/hr labor and will take an hour to do this work.  So after two uses, it has paid for itself.  You might be able to find it cheaper on ebay or some other online vendor.

    I like this chain tool.  It works on other brands as well.  The cutting pin is a bit delicate (but that's no different than other brands) and its fairly easy to get a replacment cutting pin (~$15) ordered from my local shops.

    There are other brands but I don't have much experience with them.  From what I've heard, you get what you pay for.


    badfish
    '05 600RR Purple/Black
  •  04-24-2008, 03:44 AM 286558 in reply to 286536

    Re: How to replace chain and sprockets

    I have the DID chain tool also and it works well.

    Name: Paul
    Location: Victoria, BC, Canada
    Bike: 2000 CBR600-F4, red/black
  •  04-24-2008, 06:00 AM 286564 in reply to 286558

    Re: How to replace chain and sprockets

    You absolutely can't go wrong if MotoMan approves  Yay!
    badfish
    '05 600RR Purple/Black
  •  04-24-2008, 06:15 AM 286567 in reply to 286564

    Re: How to replace chain and sprockets

    First of all, thanks again for the post; I just bought a bunch of parts and this 520 conversion is going to happen once the tool comes home. Secondly, I did a bit of stumbling on the internets and found these:
    http://www.mikesxs.net/mikesxs-tools.php?category_id=7.1
    These look pretty damn close to the expensive (but proven) D.I.D tool but they were ONLY $14. $6 for replacement pins. I bought both this afternoon and can review them if you guys want me to.

    1994 CBR 600 F2 Mods:
    Fox Racing Rear Shock
    Frame Sliders
    Vortex Sprockets: -1, +3
    RK Racing X-Ring Chain
    Metzeler Sportech M1
  •  04-24-2008, 08:03 AM 286570 in reply to 286567

    Re: How to replace chain and sprockets

    Hey, that does look the same!  Please do a review of it.

    Name: Paul
    Location: Victoria, BC, Canada
    Bike: 2000 CBR600-F4, red/black
  •  04-24-2008, 06:36 PM 286595 in reply to 286570

    Re: How to replace chain and sprockets

    Yeah, definetly do a review, if that thing works i'm gonna put an order in. 
    2002 silver/red f4i
    Two bro's slip on
    painted windscreen
  •  04-29-2008, 06:19 AM 286800 in reply to 286595

    Re: How to replace chain and sprockets

    after wat milage should the sprocket and chain be replaced ?

    05 CBR600RR Red & Black
    Montreal
  •  04-29-2008, 05:39 PM 286823 in reply to 286800

    Re: How to replace chain and sprockets

    Depends on several factors; do you service your chain on a regular interval? Do you ride the bike pretty hard? Of what quality is the current chain (is it a factory chain or aftermarket?) Different chain manufacturers may have different lives for their chains. Many high performance chains (e.g. RK, D.I.D) claim to have chain lives up to tens of thousands of miles (e.g. 20,000 miles).

    In general, consult your manual. I'm sure the manual for any popular bike will be posted somewhere on the internets. I'm pretty sure I have links but am too lazy at the moment.

    My bike current has ~25K miles and though I have had it for only 2 years (got it at 22K miles), I never maintained it after a shop maintenance when I first got it (a noob thing I suppose). Needless to say, the chain joints were not flexible, there was dirt between them, sludge build up on the sprockets, slack was more than 1.5", etc. etc. It was bad.







    1994 CBR 600 F2 Mods:
    Fox Racing Rear Shock
    Frame Sliders
    Vortex Sprockets: -1, +3
    RK Racing X-Ring Chain
    Metzeler Sportech M1
  •  04-30-2008, 02:51 AM 286857 in reply to 286800

    Re: How to replace chain and sprockets

    Ronid:
    after wat milage should the sprocket and chain be replaced ?
    As previously implied, there is no set mileage.  Its replaced as needed.  This will vary due to:

    - riding style

    - pitch of chain

    - how well its maintained

     

    Please introduce yourself in the New Members section.


    badfish
    '05 600RR Purple/Black
  •  04-30-2008, 05:58 AM 286871 in reply to 286857

    Re: How to replace chain and sprockets

    Great, i guess i dont have to worry about the chain and sprocket for now, the bike still has the factory chain, its a CBR600RR 05 with 7000KMs. all i need now is to change the oil since its been stored since last october. as for the manual, any ideas where i can get a soft copy of it for this bike ?
    thanks

    05 CBR600RR Red & Black
    Montreal
  •  05-01-2008, 06:39 AM 286930 in reply to 286595

    Re: How to replace chain and sprockets

    Finally! It arrived today (6 days after order was submitted, ships from Florida). Let's get to it.

    I bought this chain breaking and riveting tool ($14) as well as an extra push pin ($6).
    It weights approximately 2 lbs (a bit more, actually, maybe 2.5 lbs). It feels sturdy, well built, but isn't polished. That is to say that there's some kind of coating on it that makes it feel rough (kind  of comes off). Perhaps it's to create friction for better grip (cause I certainly had not problems gripping it). The tool is composed of 7 total parts: 1 large pressure bolt, cutting pin (which doubles, on the opposite end, as a rivet flare pin), a top plate(where the large pressure bolt screws into), a bottom plate, a plate holder, a nut and a bolt (which screws through the top plate to prevent bottom from sliding).

    It comes in an oval, white, plastic case. The tools fills about 4/5th of the case so, it slides a bit in the box and the case easily comes a part. I'd probably put a rubber band to hold it together; just in case. But that's not important. What is important is: does it work? And I am happy to report that it does exactly as it's advertised albeit some imperfections.

    I used it today for my first chain breaking and riveting. Worked beautifully (FYI: I did as recommended and used a dremel to make flush the rivet before cutting). It pushed the pin out clearly with no problems. It flared the rivet end, without problems, too.

    There were a couple of things that concerned me (nothing too drastic):
    I was a bit concerned at initally seeing the tool because the push pin did not directly push through the center of the hole on the bottom plate, but rather nearly touching a side. Obviously there is an alignment issue. This made it frustrating when I was trying to line up the rivet with the pin and hole. Luckily, the side screw-and-bolt, allowed me to adjust the top and bottom plate so as to compensate for the misalignment. This helped a bit, but did not entirely correct the misalignment. Once I got it to line up (again, not perfectly in the center of rivet, but just enough to push the pin out), it was smooth sailing. I can foresee how this misalignment may lead to the breakage of pins of not carefully done. (FYI: it is possible that my dremel skills to make flush the rivet is poor and that the uneven rivet surface caused by my dremel skills may have made it more difficult)

    The second concern (though not really related to the tool), was the flaring of the rivet. I'm new at this, but it seemed to me that it flare could have been larger. This might entirely be how it is suppose to look and not the tool's fault. It feels secure. I guess I've never really seen a flared rivet on a chain so, I can't really judge.

    In all, I successfully cut and riveted my chain with this tool without breaking the pin.

    Note: There were markings on the side. I didn't use any of them for reference since they didn't really seem to line up to anything.

    I will try to post pictures soon! Hope this helps. Let me know if you have any questions.



    1994 CBR 600 F2 Mods:
    Fox Racing Rear Shock
    Frame Sliders
    Vortex Sprockets: -1, +3
    RK Racing X-Ring Chain
    Metzeler Sportech M1
  •  05-01-2008, 09:30 PM 286960 in reply to 286930

    Re: How to replace chain and sprockets

    Goatsie, post some close up pics of your tool.  I'll do the same for mine and we can compare.  I'm wondering if both brands are made in the same factory.
    badfish
    '05 600RR Purple/Black
  •  05-02-2008, 05:54 AM 286985 in reply to 286960

    Re: How to replace chain and sprockets


    Pic 1: Contents of Box




    Pic 2: White plastic box, extra pin, and tool



    Pic 3: Side 1 of tool


    Pic 4: Side 2 of tool


    Pic 5: Side 3 of Tool with aforementioned non-lining marking






    Pic 6: Alignment issue. Pin does not go through center; makes diffcult when lining rivet with pin and hole.



    Pic 7: Side 4 of tool

    1994 CBR 600 F2 Mods:
    Fox Racing Rear Shock
    Frame Sliders
    Vortex Sprockets: -1, +3
    RK Racing X-Ring Chain
    Metzeler Sportech M1
  •  05-03-2008, 07:48 AM 287013 in reply to 286985

    Re: How to replace chain and sprockets

    I have the same tool, though it's aligned perfectly. I don't think it's made in the same factory as the original DID, but the design is totally the same. It works great!!
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