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Thats good, the Instructor that I had for MSF made a big deal about rolling onto the throttle during a turn.  Not all instructors must teach that.  Thats to bad for you guys, Its a pretty important part of corning.

If you guys are interested in reading, I highly recommed the book Sport Riding Techniques.  It helped me with everything.

Have a good day!

Richard

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2006 F4i - Candy Blue/Black

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Remember to keep looking through the turn, even if for a slight you feel like the tire slipped, or else you'll be in bigger trouble.

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2004 CBR600 F4i

SLip_:

Remember to keep looking through the turn, even if for a slight you feel like the tire slipped, or else you'll be in bigger trouble.

+1 big time...your body will follow your head, don't just look where you want to go, but turn your head where you want to go. My biggest problem when I first took the MSF course was that I wasn't turning my head, so I was jerky and uneven through the turn.

all this is great advice! thanks guys.

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2006 Honda CBR600F4i

All advices above (with the throttle, looking ahead in a turn etc.) are great, BUT I haven't seen one single advice on tyre pressure. This is VERY important too and can cause a lot of troubles. Just look at the rear arm for front and rear tyre pressures, then go somewhere you can check it out (a gas station maybe). ;) Greets from Romania!

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Me from Romania. You... ?

while LaoMayer is correct, tire pressure is vastly important.... the tire pressures listed on the motorcycle stickers are horrible!!  stay away from them, as they are mostly used for max loads like 2-up riding.  they never ever ever provide max grip.  start somewhere around 32-35psi for both front and rear depending on the tire and riding style.   sadly, i have also never found a gas station pressure gauge to be correct... buying a digital tire pressure gauge is a good idea. then check it atleast once every 2 weeks.

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Naked 93' F2...... RIP -- 04/12/07
04' 600RR Black - currently stuck between track and street usage
- Brembo Master, Sato's, & Ohlins out back

That's true, I must admit. On m y '94 CBR it says 2.5 bar (36.26 psi) front and 2.9 bar (42.06 psi). These are pretty high. I am riding at 2.3 front and 2.5-2.6 bar on the rear, esspecialy in the summer, when the pressure is rising because of the heat. For better grip use a slightly lower pressure then the one recomended by Honda. ;) A too lower pressure wil damage the middle of the tyre, specialy if you ride on straight roads (not so much curves).

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Me from Romania. You... ?

i commute and ride straight 90% of the time... and i keep my tire pressure at the recomended 42rear and 36 front... should i be using lower pressures?

any feeback is appreciated.

thanks.

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2006 Honda CBR600F4i

I do about 70% commuting and the rest is play time.  I keep my tires at about 35psi. 

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2006 F4i - Candy Blue/Black

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does the sticker really say 42 front?? thats very excessive, esp for the front.  but yes, def lower your tire pressures.  putting them at a more reasonable pressure, even for commuting, will increase your grip and not seriously affect the life of the tire.  u honestly never kno when ull need more grip to get u out of a sticky situation.  ull prob notice a big difference in wet weather traction by dropping the pressure too.  id try somewhere closer to 35 front, 38 rear.  still high for aggressive riding, but should be fine for commuting. 

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Naked 93' F2...... RIP -- 04/12/07
04' 600RR Black - currently stuck between track and street usage
- Brembo Master, Sato's, & Ohlins out back

maybe the reason why ive gotten such good milage from my tires is because i kept them at the recomended pressure?

i remember someone being very surprised that i have 7200 miles on the stock tires. can probably stretch them to 8000.

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2006 Honda CBR600F4i

stangmx135:

does the sticker really say 42 front?? thats very excessive, esp for the front.  but yes, def lower your tire pressures.  putting them at a more reasonable pressure, even for commuting, will increase your grip and not seriously affect the life of the tire.  u honestly never kno when ull need more grip to get u out of a sticky situation.  ull prob notice a big difference in wet weather traction by dropping the pressure too.  id try somewhere closer to 35 front, 38 rear.  still high for aggressive riding, but should be fine for commuting. 

Ok Now that bugs me cause Im always keeping my tire pressure to whart it is stated on the chain guard sticker...36F and 42R... Now what is the recomended tire pressure supposed to be at if that is wrong...Other than that Im keeping my throttle control steady in the corners and It is really haelping alot....

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It all depends on your weight...the 36F and 42R is designed to support the bike and another 350ish pounds.  (or w/e the bike + max load is)

I am right around 150lbs and I keep mine at 31F and 37R.

There are a ton of factors that go into this pressure though, such as the bike, tires, rider weight, rider position, etc...from what I've noticed, my bike is much easier to control with the pressure between 31-36F and 37-42R.  I'd say just start messing around with it (carefully) and see what works best for you.

who woulda thought this thread would become another "tire pressure" thread....

loyalty,
   partially true, but then again... ive personally reached about the same mileage on a set of softer tires that should have worn faster, using much lower air pressures.  ppl go through tires fast because they dont treat them as nice as u do.  constantly braking, accelerating, and turning wears tires a ton faster than cruising at a constant speed on the freeway.

F4i064life,
   there r a billion threads and opinions on "correct" tire pressure around here.  im actually surprised u havent seen one already.  but ya, the sticker on the chain guard gives pressures that essentially cover Honda's ass in the event of extreme situations.  if u and a passenger both weighed 200lbs each, ud need to have the rear at 42psi.  

ok, so u guys might not kno y lower tire pressure gives better grip.. and then also, y dont we go any lower than the low 30psi range...  ill try to keep this short since its probably been posted 100 other times.  tire grip is determined by 2 things; contact patch and how sticky the rubber is.   both are pretty much then determined by pressure. 

for contact patch.... a higher pressure maintains the shape of the tire more when subjected to the weight of the bike and such.  so in that MC tires are round, that profile will conform less to the flat surface of the road w/ more pressure. 

for how sticky the rubber is... all tires have an ideal operating temperature, at which the rubber is most sticky.  tires get hot because they are constantly flexing when coming in contact w/ the road.  so the more air pressure u have, the less the tire flexes, and the cooler is runs.  obviously, if the air pressure is too low, the tire will get too hot and ull loose grip there too.

so after all that, the low 30s is the magical # for great grip.  thats pretty much specified by the tire manufacturer in how they construct the tire.  i personally run 32front and 34rear.  the pressures r a bit low for the street, but ive never been good at keeping tires hot, so ya.... i think thats all i got for u two, at the moment.

 

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Naked 93' F2...... RIP -- 04/12/07
04' 600RR Black - currently stuck between track and street usage
- Brembo Master, Sato's, & Ohlins out back

exlent post man! everything you explained made sense... thanks!

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2006 Honda CBR600F4i