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Regulator/Rectifier smoking.

Last post 10-03-2008, 04:46 PM by yauhen. 8 replies.
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  •  03-01-2008, 11:39 PM 283997

    Regulator/Rectifier smoking.

    Bike died on me last week, and finally had time today to go out and look at her. Charged the battery to right above 12.3V (using a trickler) and cranked her up.

    After letting her warm up a bit, I rev'd her up and around 3k rpm the rectifier had smoke coming out of it. The harness has a nice burn mark on it now, and I can see some melted plastic on the plug to the rectifier.

    The battery is brand new. I know the rectifier was replaced shortly before I bought her last year. Looks identical to this one.  http://www.regulatorrectifier.com/catalog/19911994-honda-cbr-600-regulator-rectifier-p-190.html?osCsid=71053d1155c0613336fb4836a8461e86

    Do the aftermarket rectifiers give out a lot too?  I'd hate to burn up another rectifier if my alternator is bad or something.

    thanks

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  •  03-03-2008, 01:24 AM 284044 in reply to 283997

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    Re: Regulator/Rectifier smoking.

    i had an aftermarket one only lasted me 4 months hondas is the best. just test your wires to your stator none should have any resistance to each other or to ground is thats ok and ur battery is good then ur rectifier jus took a dump
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  •  03-31-2008, 08:34 PM 285335 in reply to 284044

    Re: Regulator/Rectifier smoking.

    I am actually at the very same juncture you are.

    I was riding my 97' F3 down the free way when my bike just shut off and died.... took it home and replaced the battery and R/R (needing new of both anyways i went ahead and got em) and BOOM it's Alive! i ride for 2 days and smell something melting while stopped at an intersection after going to lunch that day pulled over immedietly and tried to find the source, it was the pig-tail plug to the R/R, and after further over-looking it was specifically one of the alternator wires(yellow one), the one directly located above the Ground wire(green one).

    Is there a short somewhere, are the F3's known for any type of problems like this? I haven't even been able to get a multimeter on this yet but i was fishing around here and saw your post. so if anyone has any suggestions or links to read, please, do tell :)


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  •  04-01-2008, 02:08 AM 285362 in reply to 285335

    Re: Regulator/Rectifier smoking.

    The reg/rect is a common issue with the F2/F3's. By design the reg/rect needs to dissapate heat. The factory one and the factory replacement are not that great. Most of the aftermarket ones I have seen are also not that great. There is a Japanese replacement made by TourMax that I have seen first hand work time and time again, even under additional voltage requirements like extra lighting and accessories.

    I have yet to see a stator (what others have been calling an alternator) go out on one that wasn't related to a crash or severe overheating. And in that case it resulted in an undercharge condition, not overcharge. What does happen though, is the diodes in the positive side of the rectifier (stators AC to DC conversion) shorts out and creates a backward voltage path for the battery. If the regulator should kick in then it shorts the positive voltage of the battery to ground and burns the plug.  Loose battery cables seem to have some relationship to this happening on the cheap reg/rects.   


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  •  05-23-2008, 06:12 PM 287861 in reply to 285362

    Re: Regulator/Rectifier smoking.

    years ago I just bought a 600rr regulator off ebay and wired it in.

    Then I put an old pentium heat sink on it and mounted it in a new location (naked bike , most everything hidden)

    works great , not a single problem still

  •  05-26-2008, 07:56 AM 287944 in reply to 285335

    Re: Regulator/Rectifier smoking.

    Frogvent51:

    I am actually at the very same juncture you are.

    I was riding my 97' F3 down the free way when my bike just shut off and died.... took it home and replaced the battery and R/R (needing new of both anyways i went ahead and got em) and BOOM it's Alive! i ride for 2 days and smell something melting while stopped at an intersection after going to lunch that day pulled over immedietly and tried to find the source, it was the pig-tail plug to the R/R, and after further over-looking it was specifically one of the alternator wires(yellow one), the one directly located above the Ground wire(green one).

    Is there a short somewhere, are the F3's known for any type of problems like this? I haven't even been able to get a multimeter on this yet but i was fishing around here and saw your post. so if anyone has any suggestions or links to read, please, do tell :)



    did you ever figure out how the second r/r fried up?
  •  10-03-2008, 05:51 AM 293591 in reply to 287944

    Re: Regulator/Rectifier smoking.

    sorry to revive this post...but i just got a new r/r 300 miles ago, an aftermarket one, and it just fried...funny enough the old one now works fine....kinda funny if u think about it.
  •  10-03-2008, 02:53 PM 293600 in reply to 293591

    Re: Regulator/Rectifier smoking.

    Many of the problem with the stock r/r can be traced back to 2 things. Put some heat sink grease behind the r/r, so the heat can conduct into the aluminum plate behind it. Second, use some dieletric grease on the connector & connections going to the r/r. Any corrosion with cause resistance and generate heat. That why you see fried r/r wires. Probably also explains why the old one now works again.

    94 F2 - Bone stock the way Honda made it.
  •  10-03-2008, 04:46 PM 293607 in reply to 293600

    Re: Regulator/Rectifier smoking.

    Here's a good solution:
    http://cbrworld.net/forums/thread/287913.aspx
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