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F3 to F4I Gauge Swap

Last post 09-06-2009, 08:11 PM by subject6m3. 99 replies.
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  •  07-12-2007, 06:50 PM 273135 in reply to 273114

    Re: F3 to F4I Gauge Swap

    ok thanks

    Bryce
  •  07-18-2007, 09:46 PM 273692 in reply to 273135

    Re: F3 to F4I Gauge Swap

    FYI, this will probably work as a mounting solution...

    http://www.begotka.com/gauge-F4i.htm

    Not too shabby, I'd prefer if it where coated at that price ($30) though.

  •  07-19-2007, 07:15 PM 273760 in reply to 273692

    Re: F3 to F4I Gauge Swap

    Looks good, i used the original headlight mount and cut it about, made up the same sort of thing, but mine bolts to the front of the frame so won't move with the bars.
    Still not sure about the temp. sender, does the sender from the 900rr fit straight into the 600?

    merv
  •  07-19-2007, 08:49 PM 273764 in reply to 273760

    Re: F3 to F4I Gauge Swap

    m33rvb:
    Looks good, i used the original headlight mount and cut it about, made up the same sort of thing, but mine bolts to the front of the frame so won't move with the bars.
    Still not sure about the temp. sender, does the sender from the 900rr fit straight into the 600?

    merv


    98 or 99 900rr temp sensor is what you need...from what I hear it bolts right in and wires up fine.
  •  07-20-2007, 04:48 AM 273797 in reply to 273764

    Re: F3 to F4I Gauge Swap

    I found a local dealer that has the thermostat for $20, and my f4i cluster gets here tommorrow.  I'll write up a short little tutorial on it when I'm done.
  •  07-21-2007, 06:01 AM 273854 in reply to 273797

    Re: F3 to F4I Gauge Swap

    WOOOOT got done with my swap, DAMN these are great, so easy to do.  I'll have to look into getting the kickstand indicator light working, I would think it wouldnt be too hard to do. 

    BTW what is up with these stupid people on ebay, I'll see a dash unit go for 56, 70, etc, then some moron bids one up to 120+

    Oh I came up with an ingenious method of mounting the unit, I'll take pics and post details when I replace my front fairing bracket in a few days.  It involves $1.50 worth of brackets from lowes :)      

  •  08-20-2007, 07:57 AM 275764 in reply to 273854

    Re: F3 to F4I Gauge Swap

    almega, did you get your temp. gauge working? i'm having trouble with mine, local dealer wants over 40 pounds for a new sender!

    Merv
  •  08-23-2007, 05:50 AM 275956 in reply to 221433

    Re: F3 to F4I Gauge Swap

    Does anyone know if this swap would work going from an F4 to and F4i??
  •  08-27-2007, 06:41 PM 276248 in reply to 219055

    Re: F3 to F4I Gauge Swap

    where and how did you get the gagues blue?
  •  08-27-2007, 07:10 PM 276249 in reply to 276248

    Re: F3 to F4I Gauge Swap

    Replaced the led's - there white actually, just look really blue in the video.  You can do it yourself, just need a desoldering wick and a light duty soldering iron and some LEDS of your choice of color (could be white, blue, red, yellow, green, whatever you want.  Or you can have it done at blueguages.com, if they are still around.


    1993 CBR F2 - F3 motor - Factory racing covers - F3 carbs stage 1 Jet Kit - Vortex Rearsets - 520 Chain/Sprockets -1/+3 - 1000rr front end - Ohlins Steering Damper- Custom subframe - Modified and filled 600RR Swingarm and rear end - 2001 f4i gauges - OEM HID projector - Under engine dual exhaust

    2002 CBR954RR Black and Red
  •  08-27-2007, 07:35 PM 276251 in reply to 276249

    Re: F3 to F4I Gauge Swap

    is it easy?  id prolly screw it up lol
  •  08-27-2007, 09:17 PM 276253 in reply to 276251

    Re: F3 to F4I Gauge Swap

    Well, i actually bought that cluster used and they were like that, but i have done plenty of LED and other electronics projects.  Its pretty easy if you know how to solder, if you dont know how to solder, i would suggest practicing - you can get some cheap pc board and leds from radioshack and can practice soldering on that if you need to. 

    As far as picking the LED's for the actual project, i dont like to buy LED's from radioshcack, cause they are a retail store and just restock their shelves as they need to, and you might grab 5 of the same LEDs and they may all have been stocked at different times and all vary slightly in output, color, intensity, etc.  Personally, i've used superbrightleds.com before and they were great - fast shipping, all my leds matched, and pretty good prices.  Since these are guages, you dont necessarily need the highest mcd rating, you'll want to get some that spread well so you get less noticeable hot spots.  Check out hidplanet.com's forums and they have a really good LED section with lots of info.

    Also, if you want to  know what alls involved, head over to www.600rr.net and there is a tutorial on custom gauges in there forums- used to be stickied, dont know if is anymore, might have to search.  But anyways, guy goes over step by step of taking apart gauges, locating all the leds and replacing them wit the colors you want.   Its on a 600rr gauge cluster, but its the exact same process for any cluster, just would differ in locations of screws and locations of LED's.  Good info though. 


    1993 CBR F2 - F3 motor - Factory racing covers - F3 carbs stage 1 Jet Kit - Vortex Rearsets - 520 Chain/Sprockets -1/+3 - 1000rr front end - Ohlins Steering Damper- Custom subframe - Modified and filled 600RR Swingarm and rear end - 2001 f4i gauges - OEM HID projector - Under engine dual exhaust

    2002 CBR954RR Black and Red
  •  08-28-2007, 08:31 PM 276331 in reply to 275764

    Re: F3 to F4I Gauge Swap

    m33rvb:
    almega, did you get your temp. gauge working? i'm having trouble with mine, local dealer wants over 40 pounds for a new sender!

    Merv

    Not yet since its not a priority for me right now, check out this dealer, they have great prices and will ship to the UK

    http://www.hidyhondapowersports.com/fiche_select.asp

    Thermostat from a 99 CBR900RR:

    I'm assuming I need part # 8

    08 THERMO UNIT
    37750-KV3-951  001 $27.43 (meh, I think they had a 30% off sale that ended)

    Can anyone verify that this is the part required, also briefly describe whats involved at getting to it?  Remove tank, carbs, etc?

  •  08-28-2007, 09:47 PM 276334 in reply to 276331

    Re: F3 to F4I Gauge Swap

    Yes number 8 is the correct part. I got mine from ron ayers around the same price.

    I did mine while i had the bike apart, but all that needs to come off is the tank and the airbox ( i think). Then i used a long 1/4" ratchet extension with a wobble on it and a Snap-On  med. depth socket. My standard socket wasn't deep enough and my deep well was too big to get in the tight spot. Otherwise you have to remove the carbs and i was NOT doing that!

    97 CBR600 F3iRR
    F4i and 600rr plastic, F4i guages,Hyperpro steering damper, Yoshi slip on, Rear set adapters, Fox twin clicker, racetech front springs, all kevlar brake lines, RK vortex chain and sprocket set -1,+2
    88 Mustang GT
    98 Jeep Cherokee
    86 mustang t-top coupe 1 of 13
  •  09-14-2007, 05:56 AM 277290 in reply to 276334

    Re: F3 to F4I Gauge Swap

    Hey all, I just bought an F3 and want to do this swap and have a few questions.

    1.  Do you need a speedohealer to correct the speedo or can dropping the front sprocket one tooth fix the speed also?

    2.  Does swapping the gauges affect the fan switch?

    3.  Does putting in a cbr900rr thermostat fix the temp gauge? or do you still have to retap the hole to put in the sender from an F4i?

    4.  How has everyone mounted it?

    I'm sure I have more questions, but I can't think of them right now.  I'm just too excited about finally getting the bike
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