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How to check valve clearances for a 600RR

Last post 12-07-2007, 03:39 AM by Mad-Biker. 15 replies.
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  •  09-19-2006, 01:45 AM 248256

    How to check valve clearances for a 600RR

    This is a step-by-step tutorial to check the valve clearances on a 600RR (but much of it is applicable to most CBRs, please consult your service manual for the differences with your bike).  It is recommended that valves be checked every 16k miles and adjusted if the valves are out of spec.

    Things you'll need:

    • standard hand tools
    • feeler gauges

    [Click on any pic to view a higher-resolution version]

    First remove all fairings such that you have access to the engine.  In this case, this required the removal of the lower and middle side fairings, upper (not pictured), air duct covers, and tank cover.  Though not pictured here, I also disconnected the radiator from its mounting points (all hoses were still connected) to allow for some maneuverability later.

    Remove the forward-most tank bolts.  Pivot the tank back and suspend the tank.  Here a small bungee cord is used to suspend the tank.

    Remove ECM (Engine Control Module).

    Disconnect the black 2P PAIR solenoid valve connector and starter switch connector(A), IAT sensor connector (B), and the air cleaner cover.  Note:  the starter switch connector here is shown as red because I use an RC-51 starter switch with my quick turn throttle.

    Disconnect secondary air injector connectors and remove secondary air injectors.

    Remove air filter and upper air cleaner housing.

    Remove velocity stacks (C) and disconnect MAP sensor connector (D), vacuum hose to the MAP sensor connector, all hoses connected to the lower air cleaner housing, and lower air cleaner housing.

    Remove the heat guard rubber and throttle bodies.  After the throttle bodies are removed, then disconnect the throttle cables from the throttle bodies.  Note:  I have removed the PAIR valve so this pic may look different than your bike.  If your bike has the PAIR valve, then remove it now.

    Disconnect the ignition coil connectors and remove the ignition coils (E).

    Remove the cylinder head cover bolts (circled below), the washers beneath them, and the cylinder head cover.  Between the cylinder head cover and the engine casing beneath it is a thick rubber gasket.  This gasket should come off with the cylinder head cover as its also seals the ignition coils on the cylinder head cover too.

    Remove the timing hole cap and the o-ring beneath it.

    Turn the CKP (crankshaft position) sensor rotor (F) such that the "T" mark (G) is aligned with the index mark (H) on the crankcase.

    When the CKP is in this position, the index line on the CKP (I in the above pic) will line up with a "notch" inside the crankcase (J).  This notch is not visible when looking at the timing hole head-on.  We will make use of this notch soon.

    This will place timing marks, IN and EX, on the cam sprockets flush with the cylinder head casing surface.  The timing marks should be facing outward (as pictured below).  If they are facing inward, then turn the CKP 360 degrees (i.e. 1 full turn).

    Measure the valve clearances for the #1 (K) and #3 (L) intake valves with a feeler gauge.

    Rotate the CKP 180 degrees such that the index line (I) is, as the service manual says, facing "up".  This description in the manual is rather ambiguous.  So use the "notch" (J) as the reference for the index line.  You want the index line to be in line with the "notch" but on the other side of the CKP.

    Measure the valve clearances for the #2 (M) and #4 (N) exhaust valves with a feeler gauge.

    Rotate the CKP 180 degrees.  This will again bring the "T" mark (G) in line with the index mark on the crankcase (H) but the timing marks on the cam sprockets will NOT be in line with the cylinder head casing surface.

    Measure the valve clearances for the #2 (O) and #4 (P) intake valves.

    Rotate the CKP 180 degrees.  This will again bring the index line (I) facing "up".

    Measure the valve clearances for the #1 (Q) and #3 (R) exhaust valves.

    Here's what my measurements were:

    cyl 1 2 3 4 Spec
    INtake 0.009"/0.009" 0.008"/0.008" 0.008"/0.008" 0.008"/0.008" 0.008 +/- 0.001"
    EXhaust 0.010"/0.011" 0.011"/0.012" 0.011"/0.012" 0.011"/0.011" 0.011 +/- 0.001"

    All valve clearances were within spec.  So no adjustment is needed at this time (this part of the tutorial will have to wait another day Stick out tongue)

    Now put everything back together.

    When reinstalling the cylinder head cover, add some silicone sealant to the half-moon shaped openings on the engine casing.

    You'll also need to make sure the gaskets for the cylinder head cover are such that UP is indeed up.  Torque to 7 ft-lbs.

    When re-installing the timing hole cover, add some grease to the threads of the cover.  Torque to 13 ft-lbs.

    Everything else should install the way it was removed.

    Reinstall all pieces and ride Big Smile

     

    Acknowledgements:  The author would like to thank NateF4 for his valuable input.  cheers

    Disclaimer: No small children or domesticated animals were harmed in the making of this tutorial.....though it was contemplated many times.


    badfish
    '05 600RR Purple/Black
  •  10-17-2006, 03:49 AM 250604 in reply to 248256

    Re: How to check valve clearances for a 600RR

       Wow, that's another way of doing it, definitly a little confusing for the first timer.  Why don't you check both  the intake, and Exhaust clearances when #1 is @ TDC?, then rotate the engine according to the firing order, and check clearances as you go?

       Jeff


    My bike-2002 F4i-With OEM CCT......And no rattle
    "Life would be boring if everyone was perfect"
  •  10-17-2006, 04:23 AM 250608 in reply to 250604

    Re: How to check valve clearances for a 600RR

    this is how the factory service manual says how to do it.
    badfish
    '05 600RR Purple/Black
  •  10-17-2006, 04:52 AM 250615 in reply to 250608

    Re: How to check valve clearances for a 600RR

       Yes your right, but I've found that the manual ( or the people supplying the info)doesn't always tell the whole story.  Like why the #1 cyl has to be @ TDC when replacing the CCTL.( This makes no sense).  A few years back(2002)  HRC stated in Cycle Canada( I think,  I can't really remember what magazine) that if you rotate the engine backwards, that this was causing the CCTL to fail.   ????  yeah, the jury is still out on that one!  The tutorial was awesome, So don't think I'm bashing it.  I just like to work smarter not harder, I would never tell you/anyone  to do something to cause damage to your bike.  Trust me, next time try this  method.  Oh yeah, Why can't I E-mail you?  I need help to create a tutorial for the RR front end conversion.  I'll be the first to admit it, my PC skills SUCK! LOL

    Jeff


    My bike-2002 F4i-With OEM CCT......And no rattle
    "Life would be boring if everyone was perfect"
  •  10-17-2006, 06:17 PM 250652 in reply to 250615

    Re: How to check valve clearances for a 600RR

     Jeff it is funny that you brought this up. At first I thought maybe I didn't understand how 4 cyclinder motors worked but now that you bring it up it's a great question. I never tried to measure the other valves maybe I should have. Maybe just maybe they are seeing if you have chain stretch you can make it up by adjusting the valve shims. I really don't know just taking a swing at it. Now as for running the motor backwards and messing up the CCTL. If  you run it backwards it pulls the timing chain tight on the CCTL side of the motor and has a risk to smashing the stuff. Will it happen I doubt it but could is always a huge thing for motor people.

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  •  10-17-2006, 11:57 PM 250680 in reply to 250652

    Re: How to check valve clearances for a 600RR

         Hello Nate.  There is nothing wrong with doing it how the manual states, I just found it very over technical.  By adjusting both the int/eh valves @ the same time, you still rotate the crank 180, and check the lash acording to the firing order.  This will apply for any of the inline SB's.  Chain stretch has no bearing on valve lash.  The chain could  have lots, or very little chain stretch, but it will not affect your valve lash..  The valve lash is there so that as the cyl head heats up , and the valves/cams/buckets grow, the cam doesn't hold the valve off the seat( it's there for other reasons also- ie...cam profile)  As far as turning the motor over backwards, I've done it many of times phasing the cams without having any neg effects..  I think they(Honda) were to busy looking for some complicated answer as to what the noise is, and it's cause.  The reason I think this way is because Honda, sometimes seems too wraped up in making things more technical than they need to be.ie...remember a few years back when HRC US decided that they were going to run (I believe it was nitrogen, but don't quote me) in their tires.  This was suppost to have kept the tires cooler, allowing them to make only 2 pit stops, instead of 3.  Suzuki won with 3.

       Jeff


    My bike-2002 F4i-With OEM CCT......And no rattle
    "Life would be boring if everyone was perfect"
  •  10-18-2006, 12:42 AM 250686 in reply to 250680

    Re: How to check valve clearances for a 600RR

    Jeff I'm with you on doing the valves. Next time I will check them both ways and I'm sure they will be the same and from there on if no one can come up with a good answer to the manual I will do them that way from then on.

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  •  10-23-2006, 03:49 PM 251085 in reply to 248256

    Re: How to check valve clearances for a 600RR

    Really good visual reference, much appreciated. I currently own an FW(98) would like to know if you intend to do an illustrated version on how to adjust valve clearances. Help save me a mint on garage charges.

    Cheers Kenscot

  •  10-23-2006, 04:31 PM 251089 in reply to 251085

    Re: How to check valve clearances for a 600RR

    actually, I do intend to do one for an F3.  However, I don't currently own an F3 (I miss that bike Crying ).  I'll be doing my buddy's F3 but I have no estimate on the timeframe.

    FWIW, the cylinder heads are not drastically different between these bikes.  The only thing that would really be different is the values for the valve clearances.  Everything else is more or less applicable.  Look at the F3 service manual and you can see that for yourself.


    badfish
    '05 600RR Purple/Black
  •  02-04-2007, 04:23 PM 259771 in reply to 251089

    Re: How to check valve clearances for a 600RR

    abad,

    where did you get the torque spec for the timing bolt cover? i couldn't find it anywhere and when i used 13 ft. lbs..it's barely hand tight...

    t
    Mawfaki # 0.5
    "Let the ignorance die with the ignorant" - Tahoe SC
  •  02-04-2007, 07:36 PM 259775 in reply to 259771

    Re: How to check valve clearances for a 600RR

    13 Ft. pounds or did you do 13 in lbs? ;) It's not on there very tight the O'ring holds it mostly in place.

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  •  02-04-2007, 08:29 PM 259780 in reply to 259771

    Re: How to check valve clearances for a 600RR

    Tahoe SC:
    abad, where did you get the torque spec for the timing bolt cover? i couldn't find it anywhere and when i used 13 ft. lbs..it's barely hand tight... t

    service manual (chapter on maintenance).

     

    And 13 ft-lbs is barely hand tight unless you're a WIMP!!!!  nana


    badfish
    '05 600RR Purple/Black
  •  02-05-2007, 02:54 AM 259800 in reply to 259780

    Re: How to check valve clearances for a 600RR

    damn...so he did do torque spec and it mustve spun loose
    i tightened it hardcore FTW!
    Mawfaki # 0.5
    "Let the ignorance die with the ignorant" - Tahoe SC
  •  12-06-2007, 09:48 AM 281068 in reply to 248256

    Re: How to check valve clearances for a 600RR

    Great write up, i did it to my 02 cbr600f4i today.

    24,000km major service.

    theirs a small floor in the end bit when doing the exhaust valves, you forget 2 of them, and one point, you have the tdc at the top and say turn 180 and then say it should still be at the top.

     

    by following that, i didnt change anything, so everything should be as good as it was before i started right, i did turn the motor over a few times with that coggy thing, both directions to get things to line up? that wouldnt have stuffed anything would it?

     

     


    www.Mad-Biker.com
  •  12-06-2007, 03:54 PM 281077 in reply to 281068

    Re: How to check valve clearances for a 600RR

    Mad-Biker:

    i started right, i did turn the motor over a few times with that coggy thing, both directions to get things to line up? that wouldnt have stuffed anything would it?

    I'm not sure I understand your question.  I think you're saying you've turned the crank several times with the CKP.  If that is indeed what you are asking then, no, you wouldn't have stuffed anything.


    badfish
    '05 600RR Purple/Black
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