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Create a colorful custom gauge by changing the LED's

Last post 11-02-2008, 12:48 AM by powersportrider. 31 replies.
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  •  12-14-2007, 02:22 PM 281354

    Create a colorful custom gauge by changing the LED's

    First off, I need to give credit to where I got this idea.

    http://www.i-hacked.com/content/view/209/45/

    And secondly, Im not responsible for any mistakes you could make causing damage to your bike or yourself!

    Now, he did it of course to his Kawasaki, and I own a 2006 CBR600 F4I.  It’s pretty similar, but there is much more work involved on the F4I because there is a lot of disordering required. Here is everything you will need for this project.

    • The tools required to take off your front fairing
    • A Philips head screwdriver
    • soldering pen (I used mine at 15 watts)
    • tweezers or needle nose pliers to work with the itty bitty LED's
    • 3.5mm x 2.8mm Surface Mount Leds [(I used EA3528PBC-A / EA3528RWC-A ) Be sure to order more than what you need incase you lose one.  These things are sooo tiny, I lost one]
    • Thin Rosen-Core Solder
    • Desoldering Braid

    So you need to remove the Gauge from your bike.  This is what my stock set-up looked like.

    To do this you most likely need to remove the fairing like I had to.  That you should already know how to do because its Preschool stuff. 

    Once that is off, remove the wire harnesses to your gauge and remove the 3 Philips screws attaching the gauge to the frame.  Ignore the bolt, its not part of the process.

    Now make sure you have a clean working space and all of your tools

    Now remove all the screws on the back of the gauge cluster so you can take the housing apart to reveal this!!

    Now you will need to remove the needle on the Tachometer.  Lift needle over the needle stop pin and let it come to rest just on the other side of the needle. This is where you want to reinstall it when you are ready to put it back in.  Use 2 spoons like below to get it off.  A fork works really well too.

    Now for the time consuming part.  In order to reach the LED's you will need to remove your gauge and LCD screen.  To do this requires Desoldering.  That’s right! You need to remove the solder already on the board.  It takes a little patience and a steady hand but as you move along it will get easier.  This is the first time I ever did it and I don’t think it was very hard.

    Now this is what you have

    And here are all of the LED's on the board.

    Once again, you need to desolder.  I didn’t use the braid for this.  I used tweezers and grabbed onto the LED's and pulled gently as I used melted the solder holding the LED's onto each end. 

    ***Please remove one LED at a time and replace it with the new one.  You do not want to get confused where they go or which side is negative and which one is positive.  THIS IS CRUCIAL!!

    *** "LEDs are a diode the current must flow the correct way. You will notice that in one corner, there is a small triangular molded notch, this is the Cathode or negative end."  Make sure to don’t cross positive and negative ends please.

    Once they are off, put the new LED's on and maybe test it before you put everything back together.  If they work, great! If not, you screwed up and it’s not my fault!  Reassemble your gauge cluster and your bike and you are all done!!  Here are 2 video clips showing my before and after.

    Before:   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_t2LFP1WTkw

    After:   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKYJwhAzYw0


    Once again, for more information, check out these 2 sites.  Both were a big help along the way, and the second site will actually do all of this for you if you don’t mind coughing up $$$$$ and mailing your gauge to them.

    http://www.i-hacked.com/content/view/209/45/

    http://www.bluegauges.com/motorcycle/f4i.htm

     




  •  12-16-2007, 04:24 AM 281387 in reply to 281354

    Re: Create a colorful custom gauge by changing the LED's

    Looks nice, but I think you need to go back and reset your tach needle... it's reading 2300rpms with the motor off!

    01 F4i
    custom paint* Hindle race slip-on*PC3usb*Memphis Shades screen*Corbin*short stalks*Vortex triple*Fender Elim.*tag on swingarm*polished hdw,wheel lips,chainguard,gas cap,brake res. cap*blue preload adjusters, bar ends*K+N*Clear Alternatives LED integrated taillight*blue valve stem caps*Galfer SS Front lines*-1 tooth*Blue Shorty Pazzo Racing levers*Soon to come: Full 2005 600RR suspension, big brakes, more paint, custom seat cowl
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  •  12-16-2007, 06:51 PM 281395 in reply to 281387

    Re: Create a colorful custom gauge by changing the LED's

    Haha, yeah I know. I fixed it already.  I was just anxious to test it out and I took the video before I fixed it.



  •  01-28-2008, 07:54 AM 282586 in reply to 281354

    Re: Create a colorful custom gauge by changing the LED's

    Excellent write up.  I have a question.  Why don't you use the High Brightness SMT instead of the one you posted it?

    http://www.eled.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=LEDs&category%5Fname=High+Brightness+SMD+LED&product%5Fid=EA3528RWC%2DZ

  •  01-30-2008, 01:59 AM 282673 in reply to 282586

    Re: Create a colorful custom gauge by changing the LED's

    i didnt see you specifically cover the LED for the Needle...is it located in or under the tach drive?

    since its gonna be cold and i have a newborn i may try this mod...

  •  01-30-2008, 04:00 PM 282688 in reply to 282673

    Re: Create a colorful custom gauge by changing the LED's

    nice looking gauges. im diggin the blue on blue.
    '94 CBR F2
    Two Brothers slip on
    K&N filter
    Fender elim with LED tail and signals
    Frame sliders

    Soon
    jet kit?
    520 (0/+3)?
  •  02-15-2008, 07:04 PM 283319 in reply to 282688

    Re: Create a colorful custom gauge by changing the LED's

    a few places i have read that these LED's are little...just got mine today and they are itty bitty...they are about the size of SMALL

  •  02-17-2008, 09:40 PM 283398 in reply to 283319

    Re: Create a colorful custom gauge by changing the LED's

    just finished mine...it wasnt as hard as i has anticipated...i went all white and i cant wait till it gets dark so i can see how bright it is...and how good it looks

     

    you just have to really know how to desolder...and i learned pretty quick...

    also if you index your tach its not too hard to get it right the first time...but do test it as you go...i was 100 percent but i wanted to be sure...after you desolder the lcd screen you really dont want to do it twice...and you can hook the board up without the lcd and tach on it without hurting it...

    the needle gets it color from the LCD's from the tach...

    i used a plunger type solder sucker...

  •  05-29-2008, 10:30 PM 288075 in reply to 283398

    Re: Create a colorful custom gauge by changing the LED's

    Just did mine yesterday and wow it looks sweet all blue except for the red line which I used red.....  watch out though my red LEDS are marked backwards for the + and - go figure so after figuring that out everything it lights up perfect....Thanks agian guys!!!

     

    John


    I choose not too choose!
  •  06-21-2008, 06:25 AM 289386 in reply to 288075

    Re: Create a colorful custom gauge by changing the LED's

    i ordered my LED SMT's wed, or thursday, and there here on friday!

    WOW, you wenr't kidding, these things are tiny, and the polarity mark is hard as hell to see.  this will be fun!

    -04 600 F4i
    -07 Element EX
  •  06-23-2008, 06:54 PM 289481 in reply to 289386

    Re: Create a colorful custom gauge by changing the LED's





    these freaking LED's were TINY!  i had to use tweezers.. lol

    -04 600 F4i
    -07 Element EX
  •  07-08-2008, 07:23 PM 290087 in reply to 289481

    Re: Create a colorful custom gauge by changing the LED's

    I'm planning on doing this with red LEDs but looking at the part specs it says the brightness is 150.  Is that OK?

     

    tsxguy77 - Why did you offer both part #s? Did you use both?

    Can someone that used two LED colors post a pic ?

    This page


    Freddy
    '01 CBR F4i w/ PC
    Caguas, PR
  •  09-15-2008, 02:25 AM 292797 in reply to 290087

    Re: Create a colorful custom gauge by changing the LED's

    2 Months since the last post but I'm curious to see pics of one with different color led's on the circuit board also. Do you need to put a red led under the red line area or does it get the red color from the plastic of the gauge face?
    Anyone else have pics or info to add?
    Thanks
  •  09-17-2008, 10:31 PM 292945 in reply to 292797

    Re: Create a colorful custom gauge by changing the LED's

    I just ordered LED's to do this.  I am going to have the screen blue, but the tach is gonna go from white to blue to green to yellow to red.  I'll post up pics when I'm done. 

    Has anyone actually changed out the resistors on the circuit board to account for different LED's?  I'm guessing the original LED's are meant for 20 mA.  What I don't know is the rated voltage drop across the OEM LED's.  A lot of these LED's we use for this mod (especially blue and white) have a much larger voltage drop (3.5V or so) compared to a standard amber (2-2.5V), so in the end you are underpowering the LED's.  Does anyone know what voltage is going to the resistors and LED's?  Is it just the battery voltage or is it regulated somewhere on the board?


    2002 CBR 600 F4i

    2004 Infiniti G35X
  •  09-17-2008, 10:52 PM 292948 in reply to 292945

    Re: Create a colorful custom gauge by changing the LED's

    Pretty much majority of LEDs (high powered not included) have a recomended current of 20 mA and 30 mA max.  You can easily measure the voltage drop across factory LEDs by placing your voltmeter leads across the terminals of the LED while its still on the board and lit up. 
    It cant be the battery voltage since it would be huge 14.somthing volts.  Also a lot of LED applications nowdays actually use a current driver instead of resistors, controlling the current instead of voltage which is more important.  You can probably check it by comparing the brightness of your board with the engine off vs high revs, if there's no change in brightness (like it is so obvious with your headlight)  it is probably a current driver.
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