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I need a new front... and wanted to know how much of a differnce is there between the normal one and the 2ct?...

this is mostly for street riding , commuting..... and some aggressive back roads.... 

which one lasts longer also?


price differnce about 15$...

Mileage should be the same on both when just commuting and such.  The rubber compound in the center of the tire is the same on both.  The 2ct just has a softer compound on the edge of the tire that would only come in contact at close to max lean angle.

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so basicly id have to drag a knee to hit the softer compound?..


cause.. the cyclegear here has the pilot powers for 103$   and the 2cts  for 129$ for the front...

was thinking about saving a few bucks... and opt for the warrenty.

I doubt you'd have to get a knee down to use the 20% softer tread, but just decide for yourself if you really need the 2ct.  If you really ride that aggressively you might, but most people would be just as well off with the standard Pilot Power.  I wanted a set of 2ct's, but ended up getting less expensive Pirelli Diablos.  I ride the backroads very aggressively, usually doing my best fending off R1's with my lowly 600 F4i and they stick just fine.

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yah... i dont ride aggresivly..... its more about me being anal about safty.. incase i happen to lean it in to much...i dont want to lowside or anything



but i have asked a few people... and have decided to go with the regular powers...

I don't think you'll be disapointed with the Powers. You might check in to the Diablos the next time you need a pair, though.  For two years now Cycle Gear has had a special on them just before memorial day.  I got my pair for $159.99.  Even at full price, they're still cheaper than Powers.  Like I said above, they stick well.  I've had them clear to the edge at too fast for the street speeds and they stick like glue.  Plus, I've only been getting about 1800 miles out of a rear tire.  The Diablos have over 900 miles on them and still look new with no signs of a flat spot in the middle yet.

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I don't think you'll be disapointed with the Powers. You might check in to the Diablos the next time you need a pair, though.  For two years now Cycle Gear has had a special on them just before memorial day.  I got my pair for $159.99.  Even at full price, they're still cheaper than Powers.  Like I said above, they stick well.  I've had them clear to the edge at too fast for the street speeds and they stick like glue.  Plus, I've only been getting about 1800 miles out of a rear tire.  The Diablos have over 900 miles on them and still look new with no signs of a flat spot in the middle yet.

welll i havent bought the pilot power front yet... i have decided but havent had the time to buy

how much better is the diablo front vs pilot?

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1800 miles i what you got on your diablos? thats just too low... i use pilot road on the rear and have a tad over 5k.... and i still have 30-40% thread left.....   for my commuting that helps alot.

When I say you won't be disapointed with the Pilot Powers, I'm speaking of what I've heard from others.  As for the Diablos, this is my first set.  1100 miles so far now and still looks new.  The tire I only got 1800 miles on was a Pilot Sport.

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My last set of tires were Pilot Powers, I was going to try the Battlax bt014 dual compound but this set I ran the 2CT's. I ride quite a bit, both commuting and the mountians. The PP's lasted 6000 miles on the front, about 3000 on the back and would hint of broken traction on hard cornering before ever giving out. Hard downshifting or late braking would silently lock up the back tire every so often without much feedback until weight transfer started and the pucker factor set in.  Both sets warmed up fast and wear was fairly even until the last 600 miles or so. While I really liked the Pilot Powers (especially coming from a Dunlop 208), I switched to the 2CT's because the PP's still had some tread left on the edges when the center was finally gone.  For my riding style, softening the edges would only help make the full use of the tire. The 2CT's didn't disapoint at all in the corners. The solid feedback inspires more confidence at lean which is taking my corner speed up. So far, no wheel spin or slide (like the PP's would ).   I know the center compound is supposed to be the same as the PP's but the rear tire barks when it locks up and doesnt swash to the sides as fast when late braking or downshifting to a corner.  I give the 2CT's a double thumbs up and may not move away from them until something better comes out!

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If you got 3000 miles out of a PP 2ct rear, I might just have to try a set next time.  That is if I can get past the extra $$$ compared to Diablos.  I got the same, 3000 miles, out of my first Diablo rear.  Might have gotten another couple hunded miles of commuting out of it, but I went ahead and changed it before going to Deals Gap this past weekend.

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I can't vouch for the longevity of the 2CT's yet since I'm still wearing them out ;) . The Standard Pilot Powers did go 3000 on the back, maybe a little more. I would say that the 2CT's would last the same but the centers are clearly not the same compound as advertised so I'll post back in 2200 miles (3 months)! I dont blame you for swapping the rears off before hitting the Gap. That last 1/16 of an inch of tire goes really fast.  I hit nylon the day I changed mine... it was paper thin... I can't belive it stayed together going tripple digits... wont do that again!!!

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I would think pilot powers would suit your needs for the majority of the riding.  Running correct pressure and warming up the tire would be more crucial.  I had a set of dunlop qualifers and now i'm on a set of pilot powers, which for my style of moderate riding i can't tell the difference.  save a few bucks for mounting if it's not included in the price.

I have a little over 1000 miles on the 2ct's now. The front is doing fine but the rear is beginning to square off already under the same riding usage. As I said before, I dont think the rear is the same compound as the Pilot Powers in the middle... it definately brakes different in a straight line.

I have, however, added ram air and a different airbox which has changed the part throttle characteristics so maybe that is causing more flat wear.

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I love the grip of the powers and I know I won't ever need the extra of the 2ct.  But I wish they would have gone the other way with their thinking on that tire.  Takend the regular power and made the center harder for longer life, maybe not as hard as a touring tire.

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But I wish they would have gone the other way with their thinking on that tire.  Takend the regular power and made the center harder for longer life, maybe not as hard as a touring tire.

I agree with you there.  I feel the same about Pirellis.  I've become quite the Diablo fan, but it would be great to have the Diablo compound in the middle and the Diablo Corsa compound on the edges of a set, instead of Corsas with even softer edges like their Corsa III's.

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BRG Racing 1/5 turn throttle
Pit-Eck undertail and hugger